A 5 win turnaround, bringing a level of professionalism to this team and making this team competitive in every game. Mangini is a great football coach and has proven Belichick's contentions with Mangini leaving correct. The Jets can't be successful because the environment doesn't allow for success. The Yankees have created an environment in New York that expects teams to win the championship every year. This is not sustainable. While there should be expectations of success, firing a coach after 3 seasons shows that this franchise has completely unrealistic expectations. Imagine if the Pats fired Belichick after the first 2 seasons?
I agree. But how you finish is more important than how you start. Think about all those years that Hess kept Walton and Coslett here. Nothing worse that being 5-8 and winning your last three.
The Pats won the Super Bowl in Belichick's second season with the team.... This move shows to me that the owner actually wants to see this team win, instead of just settling for "improvement"...
Well, then he makes a good point. The Pats would have looked foolish firing a coach who just won a Super Bowl.
I freakin' love it! The Yankees get blamed for everything! Are they responsible for the situation in Gaza too? Come on. They haven't won it all since 2000. Professionalism? Was Mangini's lying about injuries professional? Don't kid yourself. This team collapsed down the stretch. They played poor, uninspired football. Mangini made serious tactical mistakes in both SF and Seattle. He didn't get fired for the 9-7 record, he got fired for the December to dismember.
Mangini is a good coach. But the collapse was unacceptable. Favre is most to blame, but I have a lot of problems with the way both the offense and the defense are run. Mangini is in charge of both.
I can absolutely appreciate your stance. Continuity IS important, and I think you have a rational point. That being said, the flipside to constructive continuity is continuity for continuity's sake. Staying with someone just to NOT make changes may not always be the best approach. He may have blossomed here next year, but judging from the recent past, he may have imploded further, thus setting us back one additional year. I understand your point, but am kinda glad that, in this specific case, our ownership was a bit aggressive.
A great coach has his team play to its strengths (running the football is a big one). He doesn't create an offense based on one player. A great coach makes halftime adjustments and regular adjustments when things aren't going well. A great coach doesn't let the OC or whoever calls plays abandon the running game down the stretch with a struggling and apparently injured QB at the helms. A great coach would have seen that a consistent three-man rush not only puts no pressure at on the QB, but also puts constant pressure on the secondary. You can't cover recievers for 7,8 or more seconds. A great coach would have seen this team is built to run with two outstanding backs and a terrific offensive line.
we sure looked competitive getting blown out by an awful Broncos team that couldn't beat anyone down the stretch but us, giving up nearly 30 points to the Bills who couldn't score against anyone else but us (and the Broncos), and couldn't do diddly-squat against an awful Seahawks team, not to mention losing to a bad 49ers team, no matter how improved their were under Singletary. you sure have a very minimal criteria for competitive.
I dont think mangini is a great coach. But if we dont have a replacement lined up then things can get worse. In a way it feels like we went out of the frying pan and into the fire.
look coaches stay for years sometimes because people and fans see that there is progress and they are doing a good job...but when you make questionable calls game after game for the past 5 or 6 games that basically cost you the season you gotta be fired
Coaches win and lose depending on how their qb's play: Favre plays well and the Jets beat the Titans and Pats and Mangini looks like a genius. Favre plays horribly in the last 5 games (2 tds/9 picks) and Mangini gets fired. Every Giants fan wanted Coughlin fired and then magically Eli starting playing well and now Coughlin is a genius. NFL coaches aren't geniuses. The teams with the better qb's usually make the playoffs. Peyton, Big Ben, Pennington and Rivers. Flacco and Collins did enough and didn't kill their teams with turnovers. Cassel played great and got the Pats to 11 wins. Eli, Delhomme, Mcnabb, Ryan and Warner. Tavaris Jackson is an exception. The NFC has some good qb's on some really bad teams like Romo and Brees. The bottom line is that most coaches either sink or swim depending on who their qb is. Favre's play destroyed Mangini and the rest of the team. It's a shame since if we had basically any other average qb we probably win 12 games with the crap schedule and few injuries.
Firing him shows for the first time in years that this team may just win now. Shottenheimer got fired after a 14-2 season. I could see you crying about it if that was the case with Mangini but after 3 years all he has to show for it is a losing record. He sucked.
what? you want them to look for a new coach before they fire the old one? Does that make sense you want your boss looking for your replacement before they fire you? They need to take thier time and find a solid replacement, one that commands respect and can take this team to the next level.
He had a losing record but he also almost completely rebuilt the team during his stay. Its not like he took over a team with a lot of talent and could not win with them.
