What happened to Clemens being the QB of the future in NY? Ratliff does the same thing as Clowney in the preseason (performs great, leads the NFL in PRE-SEASON yardage) and everyone forgets about the guy in front of him? I am in favor of an open competition whenever necessary. I will not jump on this Ratliff bandwagon until a member of the CS annoints him the starting QB or, as any fan has the right to do, the QB in front of him starts sucking ass. I believe Clemens has the tools to do some good things for this team, and sitting behind Favre for a year may have helped him. I will admit, it also could have scarred him for life. Aaron Rodgers doesn't look so bad after learning from Favre. Why all the cheers for Ratliff?
Clemens hasn't even been out of sight (still on the sidelines as No. 2 as far as I can see) and he's all but out of mind. He's not going anywhere, and I do think that Ratliff and the UofT QB will be expected to compete with him once Favre is no longer an option. Why not? Shuffling player cards from the Fantasy Football deck is not a reliable way to come up with a starting QB.
Clemens played against the same competition that Ratliff did, and looked worse. Clemens has also regressed and not developed in his 3rd year, so the doubts justifiably are beginning to grow. His footwork and mentality suck. His short time against the Chargetrs this year was funny, 3 short passes that were completed, and then he pisses his pants in the red zone and throws an embarrassing pick with no receiver within 5 yards of the throw. To me, Ratliff isn't all about the numbers, it was his mental intangibles such as sliding in the pocket, being the leader on the field, knowing what to do in certain situations, and all of this came one year after the kid couldn't recite one playcall in the huddle before he even got up to the LOS. Thats a big stride. I do need to see Ratliff develop even more, and overrake the #2 spot next TC. I think he will. Clemens is at #2 due to his playing experience from last year.
After you enlighten us on how we can make the playoffs, because you obviously think that the Pats losing is the only way.
I completely agree with what you're saying. As crazy as is sounds, I think Ratty and Clemens both have a lot of potential. Clemens had a terrible year last year, but there were times where he looked like a pro out there. The fact that some people expected him to thrive his first year, after being thrown to the wolves like he was, is just ridiculous. Clemens did play worse, but some of that was circumstantial. Clearly a bad throw, but at least he helped get them down into the red zone. It's funny cuz people forgive Favre for throwing garbage-time picks all the time.
Clemens is a bust. Duh. His stats last year were historically bad, and despite the fact that stats are thrown out every other time they matter here. Sure, he was the QB during all 4 of our wins last year, and coulda/shoulda/woulda had one or two if Cotchery didn't have some major drops. He was still scared like the vagine he was coached by, and the team/franchise he played for. He blew chunks behind a team with a shit O-line, injured WRs, and no running game. Theres just no hope for that. PLUS didn't you see his preseason this year? Name a good starting QB that had a bad preseason. Ratliff outplayed him, and therefore is the guy who should be the QB of the future.
Clemens just looks all spastic in the pocket to me. When he throws it looks like a nervous reaction, not very fluid. Ratliff on the other hand seemed poised in the pocket, had a sense of when to step up and when to move around, and he also seemed to know when to throw it away. I think Clemens is so desperate to show he can play that he overdoes things...we'll see what a year behind Favre might have done for him, but to be honest, I think Favre as a mentor for Clemens could possibly bring out all the wrong qualities in the kid.
1) In training camp, Clemens was an interception machine and was still showing signs of not being able to grasp the offence. Which is one of the reasons why Favre was brought in...Clemens was supposed to be "the guy" this season...and didn't deliver. Everyone figured (including myself) that Clemens needed one more TC under his belt to get over the hump...considering the starting experience he gained last season. Such was not the case. 2) Favre is clearly favoring his shoulder.....i'm not sure if his iron man record for consecutive starts is the reason why he's still starting...but the fact that Clemens hasn't been given the ball to try to get this team into the playoffs while Favre heals...is a clear sign from Mangini that he doesn't have faith in him to lead this team. I'm not writing Clemens off....but it's apparent he's regressed considerbly, seeing what he did in TC..... perhaps with a different coach...maybe Clemens could be salvageable...but under the current regime.....you won't see him on the field again (barring injuries of course). this is just my take....i'm sure there's quite a few differing opinions out there regarding Clemens.
Oh i get it. That means he was given a shot with what we have in line for next year. We now have a strong O-line, and a running game. The WR's obviously need an upgrade, as not even Brett Favre can wwin with these guys.
Clemens plays very small--I don't know his actually size off hand but he plays like hes 5-10 or so. Passes consistently batted down at the line. Doesn't seem to have command of the field. Of course, Flutie was good and small but I don't see the promise in Clemens. For what its worth, I never thought he was NFL caliber. Ratliff plays big--he looks like Big Ben in there. He seems to understand the field. He seems composed relative to Clemens. He actually could be a good QB--Clemens is a back-up at best, imo.
Clemens is 6'2 (same as Favre) EDIT: You know what...Clemens has some tools. The guy has wheels and is a threat to run...he has a live arm. With the right coaching, he could be a decent option. My only concerns are that the current coaching regime has ruined him with Schotty's complex playbook...and that he could be shellshocked from all the sacks he took last season (see David Carr).
Clemens couldn't even put a few drives together in PRE-SEASON, why should we trust him when a game actually counts? The sooner we realize he's a bust the sooner we can move on and find our future QB.
I agree with you to a point. If Clemens stays with this team, with our current coaching staff...you're absolutely correct. However, if it was Clemens that got released and signed by the Phins'...i'm sure Parcells would've turned him into to the next coming of Tony Romo. OUR COACHING STAFF IS THE PROBLEM!!
Did you watch the games? It's not like the guy had any help. Half his throws were on the money and dropped by the receivers.
