Five dark horses for the Jets HC job if we trash Mangini:

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Which of these five dark horses would you want to HC the Jets if we trash Mangini?

Poll closed Apr 3, 2009.
  1. Rob Ryan - Raiders defensive coordinator

    2 vote(s)
    1.7%
  2. Rex Ryan - Ravens defensive coordinator

    36 vote(s)
    31.0%
  3. Steve Spagnuolo - Giants defensive coordinator

    54 vote(s)
    46.6%
  4. Kevin Gilbride - Giants offensive coordinator

    2 vote(s)
    1.7%
  5. Josh McDaniels - New England offensive coordinator

    2 vote(s)
    1.7%
  6. Would rather keep Mangini than have one of these guys

    20 vote(s)
    17.2%
  1. JetsFan

    JetsFan Well-Known Member

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    Rob Ryan is in his fifth year as Raiders defensive coordinator. In 2007, Ryan coordinated a Raiders defense that produced two players who ranked in the top-10 in the AFC in sacks, ranked third in the NFL in percentage of passes intercepted, eighth in the NFL in pass defense, fifth in the AFC in opponent?s third down efficiency (39 percent) and sixth in the AFC in opponent?s Inside the 20 touchdown percentage.
    In 2006, Ryan oversaw a defense that led the NFL in pass defense and ranked third in total defense. The Raiders defense under Ryan also ranked fourth in the NFL in fewest yards allowed per play, fifth in defense inside the 20, fifth (tie) in defensive touchdowns and fifth in net passing yards per play.
    *Note: Coaching is in his blood and he is anything but an emotionless lump on the sideline. His defenses will terrorize opponents. His stats speak for themselves. We have the players on defense, he would get them to produce.

    Rex Ryan was retained by the Ravens as defensive coordinator on January 28, 2008. He was also named assistant head coach on John Harbaugh's staff.
    Rex Ryan entered his 9th year with the Ravens holding a new 2-year contract after directing the NFL's No. 1-ranked defense and earning 2006 NFL Assistant Coach of the Year honors from Pro Football Weekly and The Pro Football Writers Association...This marks Ryan's 3rd year as Baltimore's defensive coordinator...Rex is the only remaining Ravens' assistant coach from the 2000 Super Bowl XXXV season's superb defense...He spent 6 seasons as the Ravens' highly-successful defensive line coach and owns a distinctive NFL bloodline when it comes to coaching defenses.
    *Note: Same as above!

    Steve Spagnuolo is the current defensive coordinator for the New York Giants He was named coordinator January 2007, following 8 years under defensive coordinator Jim Johnson's Philadelphia Eagles staff. After his Super Bowl XLII victory Spagnuolo was considered for the head coach of the Washington Redskins but remained with the Giants with a 3 year contract of more than $2 million a year.
    *Note: He is already in New York, knows the media, liked by the players and would build a great defense. He can be very animated on the sideline, but not as much as the top two darkhorse candidates.

    Kevin Gilbride is in his second full season as the Giants? offensive coordinator after serving the previous three years as the team?s quarterbacks coach. Gilbride assumed play-calling duties from former coordinator John Hufnagel prior to the 2006 regular season finale in Washington.
    With Gilbride devising game plans and calling plays, the Giants? offense compiled many impressive numbers during the 2007 season. The Giants scored 373 points in 2007, the fifth-highest total in franchise history. They scored more than 30 points six times during the season, their highest total of 30-point games since 1963, when they had 10 ? including three 40-point games. The Giants? 321 first downs were the fourth-highest total in team history. The 1985 Giants hold the franchise record with 356 first downs, followed by 1986 (324) and 2002 (323). The Giant? 5302 total yards were the seventh-highest total in franchise history.
    *Note: Has HC experience, already in the area, produces exciting offenses and could polish a young QB into something special. Not as energetic on the sideline as I would like and is a recycle coach. Same things could have been said about Belichick.

    Josh McDaniels enters his eighth NFL season and his eighth season in New England. He joined the Patriots on March 1, 2001 as a personnel assistant in the scouting department and assisted the defensive coaching staff for three seasons. He began serving as the Patriots' quarterbacks coach in 2004 and was named offensive coordinator/quarterbacks coach on January 20, 2006.

    McDaniels Bio:
    McDaniels attended John Carroll University, where he played football as a wide receiver from 1995 to 1998. He was also a teammate of current Patriots wide receivers coach and then-John Carroll quarterback Nick Caserio. Then began his coaching career as a graduate assistant at Michigan State University from 1999 to 2000 under Nick Saban. He joined the Patriots in 2001 as a personnel assistant. From 2002 to 2003, he served as a defensive coaching assistant for the team, working with the defensive backs in 2003. In 2004, he became the team's quarterbacks coach. After offensive coordinator Charlie Weis left the team following the 2004 season, the Patriots went without an offensive coordinator for the 2005 season, though it is suspected that McDaniels called the offensive plays for the season.[1] After the season, McDaniels was officially promoted to offensive coordinator, while retaining his responsibilities coaching the team's quarterbacks.
    In the 2007 NFL season, with McDaniels at the helm of the offense, the Patriots set NFL records, scoring 75 touchdowns (67 on offense, 50 passing and 17 rushing) and 589 points, leading to rumors that McDaniels might leave the Patriots for a head coaching job.

    *Note: Before you rag on McDaniels as just another BB boy I have some reasons he would fit and it would work:
    1. He has more experience at couching than Mangini did when we hired him.
    2. Knows both the offense and defense sides of the ball and learned them from Belichick.
    3. Calls his own plays and can do it on both sides of the ball.
    4. Worked with some good coaches at college an in the NFL.
    5. Built an little known Brady into a HOF and an unknown Cassel into the next best thing.

    Bonus: Matt Cassel knows him and his offense, but best of all and we could grab both away from Belichick and the Pats. Have a coach and QB who have proven thy work together.

    A Bit of a Stretch: He was born in Canton, Ohio (could be a sign).

    I didn't want Mangini because he didn't have the experience and only one year at a coordinator position and we all know BB ran that defense. McDaniels has experience and as mentioned above would bring Cassel with him.
     
  2. Hemi

    Hemi Well-Known Member

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    What a suprise, another "new coach" thread.

    Can't these be merged. Or do they all have to separate threads.
     
  3. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    If we hire another assistant from the Patriots, I'm going to smash my head through a wall.
     
  4. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    Gilbride sucked as an NFL head coach. The other four? Who knows.


    Here's a post I made on September 25th with some other possibilities-
    Of course, Singletary's probably going to be retained by San Francisco.
     
  5. JetsFan

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    If Woody wants to fill seats in his stadium he will have to generate excitement and hope for the fans.

    Matt Cassel is the excitement we need. He has all the buzz and would fuel the Jets vs Pats rivalry. He is the #1 FA this season and would be just as big to the fans as bringing Favre to us was this season.

    To get Cassel we need someone he trusts and that is he OC in New England.

    Hire McDaniels as the new HC and he will bring Cassel with him. Best of al Matt would not have to learn a new offense and should be ready to go day one.
     
  6. MBGreen

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    the only coach on that list that makes sense is Rex Ryan....and it's because he runs a 3-4 defensive alignment.

    Unless the Jets trash everything and start from scratch...you won't see any of those other choices from your list calling the shots next season.
     
  7. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    Rex could get us Marvin Lewis and Jim Fassel as our 3 braintrusts... thats a damn good braintrust... and Callahan would stay because I think Fassel knows him.
     
  8. JetsFan

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    the horse isn't completely dead so I'll whip it one more time...

    McDaniels knows the 3-4
     
  9. JetsFan

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    Rex Ryan is a great candidate and I would not mind having him, but that would leave who as the QB?

    Brett Ratliff could be our Matt Cassel but do we stick with him next year or get someone else. Kellen Clemens is no option and a backup at best.
     
  10. JohnnyJohnson

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    None of the above. If you're going to give any of those guys a shot, you have to include Westoff in the list.
     
  11. MBGreen

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    why would Woody make the same mistake twice? The Jets need to get away from the Patriot "coaching factory".
     
  12. jilozzo

    jilozzo Well-Known Member

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    the problem is this.....the last several jet coaches, excluding parcells and kotite, were rookie NFL coaches....

    from 1990 - coslet, carroll, groh, edwards, mangini.

    if they do indeed get rid of mangini - or he resigns - they really need someone with experience to try and right the ship.

    jil
     
  13. The Dark Knight

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    haha Josh McDaniels would be kind of funny.
     
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    Maybe we can just cut out the middle man and have Jonathan Kraft coach the team next year. If we're going to bring someone in to ruin us, we may as well have it all out there in the open.
     
  15. JetsFan

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    Can you just amagine how mad BB would be if we took his OC.
     
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    Kraft couldn't do any worse than the last two HC we had.
     
  17. MBGreen

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    i don't give a rats ass what Belichick thinks....I want this team to find a winning formula that's consistent....the goal isn't to "piss off" New England's head coach.
     
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    i think our new coach is either going to be cowler or westoff. plain and simple and i think fat boy is definately gone next year. no way they give an extension and it's a lame duck year. nighty night fat arse.
     
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    Give me ryan and get Vilma back, that would be awesome
     
  20. Cman69

    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    Jill, you're right. I forgot that Coslet and Carroll were both rookie HC's too..

    One more Patriot coach and I'm done with this franchise until Woody sells. I'm up to here with Woody's obsession with all things Patriot. He's getting almost as bad as Dolan.
     

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