2008-2009 Yankees Off-Season Thread

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  1. Yisman

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    with the new stadium having less seats than the old one, selling tickets shouldn't be a problem. Of course, with the FA signings, ticket prices will rise...

    edit: I just saw something about wanting to sell out the suites. So suites, not seats.
     
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    sample size? Anyone?

    and focusing only on extra base hits is distorting the picture. He had a .550 OBP. .550!!!! That's a choker?
     
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  3. Don

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    Olney just this minute said on ESPN that he thinks the Yankees will now withdraw their offer to Pettitte to save money. They really want to have a lower overall payroll than last year.
     
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    I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm quite comfortable purchasing the World Series.

    As far as people complaining about the Yankees asking for cash for the Stadium, almost all sports franchises ask for public funding for their new parks. Hell, NYC is trying to spend my money to chase out the junkyards across the street from a team I don't like. I don't complain about that. The thing is, asking for public funds to subsidize the cost of a stadium is different than spending money on payroll. The team is asking the city to invest in the stadium with a hope of return on investment, whereas the team is hoping for a different ROI by purchasing high-price contracts.

    BTW: It isn't just the Yankees who asked for more money:

    http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=sbd.preview&articleID=126115

    And that's not counting the taxpayer bailout Citibank received, so I'd say the Mets are guilty (both directly and indirectly) of taking at least as much money out of my pocket as the Yankees are yours. :wink:
     
  5. Don

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    That's totally different. The Yankees are putting 1.1 billion of their own money into the stadium. The city is responsible for parking, infrastructure, and parks..the price just went up. That's the city's problem.
     
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    That may be some posturing to get him to take the $10M they originally offered. If I were Andy, I'd take it.

    Of course, I'd still like to see him in pinstripes next year, so I might be a tad bias.
     
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    right, but the Mets didn't go out and spend ~$450 million on free agents while crying for city money.


    I hate the idea of teams demanding money from cities. The cities never get what they're promised, so as always, the taxpayers are the ones that get screwed.
     
  8. Don

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    I do too, but if it's a choice between another bat and a 5th starter I would take the bat and let Hughes prove he was worth the gamble. They could always add another pitcher in July. Like I said earlier, the only problem with that would be an injury. Then it would mean Hughes and Kennedy and that would be another disaster.

    At this point I'm pretty sure Cano will be at 2nd and Cabrerra in center too. For what it's worth, they say both are hitting much better in winter ball.
     
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    awesome if true. Thats just what I asked for two pages ago! Fuck Andy Pettitte!!!!!!!!!!!!

    There simply NO reason to give your fifth starter 10 mil for a 5 era...we can get hat for waaaay cheaper. Cut the damn ties once and for all already.
     
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    Girardi said Cano was continuing to work on his new stance that he ended the year with. Says its becoming second nature.
     
  11. AlioTheFool

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    No, the Mets spent less and cried for more money. All while having a sponsor that I'm paying to keep in business.

    I do agree with your overall premise though, no team should be able to ask its host city/state for money to run its business. But they all do it. So my team may as well join the fun.

    BTW: The Mets got more money for their park in the first place:

     
  12. 17a_tailgater

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    2 WRONGS DONT MAKE A RIGHT. didnt your mother teach you anything?

    besides this is a yankee thread.stop bring up the Mets,(jeez just cant stop about MY team pfft)
     
  13. Don

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    Pretty good article here. It shows how the Yankees learned from the mistake they made with Beltran.

    " But the Yankees had reasons for this decision beyond simply having the money to do it. For them it came down to remembering Carlos Beltran vs. Johnny Damon, and forecasting Teixeira vs. Matt Holliday.

    The Yanks essentially learned from history. They were in a very similar situation four offseasons ago. At that time, after the 2004 campaign, they also decided that upgrading their rotation was the top priority. So when the choice came down to whether to add the high-end lefty starter or the switch-hitting defensive stalwart represented by Scott Boras, the Yanks picked Randy Johnson over Beltran.

    That proved a mistake, and not just because the Big Unit was such a huge disappointment. But because a year later the Yanks had to address the center-field issue anyway, and they no longer had someone as gifted as Beltran available. "

    " The Yanks still - believe it or not - project a lower payroll in 2009 than 2008, and will now try to lower it further by trading at least one and possibly two from among Damon, Matsui, Nady and Nick Swisher.

    They most want to protect the leadoff-hitting Damon and move the worst defender, Matsui. The Angels, after losing out on Teixeira, could use Matsui's production, and so might Texas or Oakland. The Braves, shut out all over the place this offseason, are among the teams that like Nady and, especially, Swisher. "

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/1224200..._bombshell_shows_yanks_wont_repeat_145706.htm
     
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    dude i like Cano alot.i saw him and wang when they played for the Staten Island Yankees.i took Cano with the 15th pick in my fantasy draft last year.1st pick of the 2nd round.

    no doubt i will draft him again but not sure of his ADP (average Draft position) and if his stock slipped that much.
     
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    Yeah, Long is very happy with Cano's progress as well. He spent 2 weeks with him after the season on repititions of the tweaked stance. According to Long, Cano is learning more patience at the plate as well.

    If Robbie can develop a good sense of patience at the plate, he can be a dangerous hitter.

    I've read the Yankees are happy with Melky's winter work as well. I'm not so comfortable with that though. I'd love to see him hit consistently because I think if he were to hit consistently, even at an average level, his defensive ability would make him a full-time centerfielder for this team.

    Honestly, I wouldn't mind this lineup (if Melky can get on base):

    Damon DH
    Jeter SS
    Teixeira 1B
    ARod 3B
    Posada C
    Cano 2B
    Nady RF
    Swisher LF
    Melky CF

    That's not bad really. But again, only if Melky can consistently get on base. Otherwise, trading Matsui's bat for his is stupid.
     
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    leftovers from 2 girls 1 cup?
     
  18. Don

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    Is that an "E" Burned out?
     
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    You're correct. Personally, I say just contract the Mets, and everything will be fine after that.

    As for talking about the Mets in the Yankees thread, I don't mind, as long as it's in context to the conversation. In this case, the Mets are at least (and actually more) greedy for public funds as the Yankees. The only difference is, the Yankees don't finish one game out of first every year. :smile:

    It depends when you draft, I'd say. If you draft before spring training, you'll probably get him at a steal. If it's after he's shown off a bit in Tampa, his price might go up.

    I tend to think he'll bounce back this year. As I said all last year, his problem is that he's got an itchy trigger finger at the plate. I said that if he ever learns plate discipline, he'd be a dangerous hitter. Seems the Yankees noticed the same thing.
     
  20. 17a_tailgater

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    i draft mid march
     

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