OK I know the whole PSL/Favre thing is part of it, but based on play, I would still bet the farm everyone takes Favre over Pennington. Pennington is a system player, and asking for anything beyond that is sketchy at best. His fragility alone still makes him less appealling for anything without a very productive running game and strong line. That's the total problem with Pennington is that he's just not reliable in a pass-happy offense, ironically enough. As soon as you take his running game away you're going to lose more games than you win.
I bet YOUR biased assumptions are completely wrong. Durability is why we got rid of him but if we knew he'd be healthy he was a better option for this year and based on the perfromance of the 2 there's no way anyone can say otherwsie.
I'd love to know how you are grading their performances and leaving TDs by the way-side? Your argument says only one thing: Their D has played better. That's it. That has nothing to do with Chad. If you're looking at nothing more than a passer rating, then I'm not sure what to tell you. Also, playing the short completion game for that rating only says that his receivers are providing great YAC, which is what he solely relies on. Not to mention, I don't know if it were intentional or not, but this post is extremely speculative at best. "If we knew he was going to be healthy, we knew he'd be the better option" How? How exactly do you know that? You don't. Having 2 actual good years, when the strongest part of your game is your running game, doesn't mean he's a better QB, it means he's in a system that requires less of the traditional QB skills and the requirement becomes more of a signal caller than anything. So how does that make him a better QB, even if it is just for a short time? Does your opinion change frequently? How about looking at the sum instead of the parts?
Their D playing well has alot to do w/ Chad b/c he's not turning it over. Hiw did I know he'd be the better option? For one thing we got Favre a month before the season so he needed to learn a new system for the first time in 15 years and didn't go through an offseason conditioning program(my problem was never w/ the deal itself it was w/ the timing. if we got him a few months earlier it would have been different). A healthy Chad knows our system and our players, our O would have been better. Chad has a team w/ half the talent TIED w/ us. We had a 2 game lead 2 weeks ago, now that's gone. That alone tells me Chad is having a better year. Chad is throwing to davon bess and ted ginn, his Rbs have bigger names but less production than our duo this year. The game is about more than fantasy #s. Chad is clearly having a much better year than Favre.
Yes because their D is better. It doesn't tell you he's a better QB. That's moronic at best. In fact quit talking to me about fantasy fb...I've never even had the urge to see what it's about let alone base my opinions on it or play it. You know what? I don't even want to debate this with you anymore because your points become more idiotic with every post. Yes I know, I know nothing about football and you are the second coming of John Madden. Blah blah blah, you're just arrogant and stubborn. Go polish your Chad Pennington figurine collection.
My take? Jets choked and will miss the playoffs. Jets will get exposed again in the next coming weeks.
Here we go. As usual you have to go on a rant b/c you don't have anything to offer the discussion. Leave me alone, go discuss things w/ others who will buy your BS. Stay away from the informed posters.
Haha what makes you so informed? Because you stand behind your biased opinion? You don't know your ass from a hole inthe ground when it comes to football, and the mere fact that you say you do, doesn't change that fact that you really don't. I'm going on a rant because I find it hard to believe anyone is so blatantly ignorant. Accusing me every time we debate of basing my opinions on fantasy numbers is the cause of the rant, moron. THe fact is simple, you don't know shit. You spout off stats from NFL.com and create this delusion in your head as to what those stats mean, and then have the nerve to expect everyone else to share your delusion. Idiot.
Quality post. The only problem is quality posts are wasted on the poster in question. I suggest use of the ignore feature.
Here's an idea with stats, why not look at ALL of the stats to form a more educated opinion, instead of just stats that jive with a single statement you made. You have a whole pallet of stats to work with, but you decide to just throw some away...like..uhhh TDs. Not that TD passes are important when judging a QB, right? "We have the same record and were 2 games ahead, that's why our old QB is better than our new one" That's the most retarded statement, I've ever had the misfortune of witnessing in my entire time here at GG.com and I hope that you really don't believe that. Really, it's just ridiculous. Step back from your arrogant self for a moment, repeat it back to yourself once or twice, then come back and say "wow, that was retarded. I owe you 20 seconds of your life back" Not only is it ridiculous but it's also contrary to arguments you've made for pennington's failures. When Chad fails the team let him down, and when the Jets lose it's because Favre is the QB. So not only are you a moron, you're a hypocrite.
This is silly. Plain silly. So by this argument, all QB's started 0-0 at the beginning of the year. Now Tennessee has the most wins. This alone tells me Collins is having a better year!. Silly, silly, silly.
:rofl: I'd have Favre and Pennington pretty close to even on the season overall. Pennington is winning some of the stat categories that he usually does, and Favre is well.. Brett Favre. He hasn't been any miracle worker in many games for us this season. He has looked a lot like Penny in a Jets uniform. Some of that I blame on the CS though. Both QBs have their teams in first place. Chad has benefited from help on part of the defense, as has Favre and Jets. The one fact you brought up is that Chad is doing it with an offense not nearly as talented as ours. Aside from Ginn, I can't even name another Miami receiver. In the end I believe the Jets will end up on top, but it has had its moments of sloppiness this year. Downright ugly lately.
Which is precisely why Miami has more rushing TDs than passing TDs. Here's what Favre gives you....everything Chad can do and the very real possibility of more.
Look at the talent around Favre and look at the talent around Chad and you'll understand. The only area coming into the season you'd say Miami had an edge was at RB and our RBs are outplaying their RBs. Favre has better WRs, a better OL, better RBs and a better TE. Chad isn't turning it over and putting his D in bad spots, Chad also doesn't have the befit of the great STs that Favre has and yet they are leading their O's to similar scoring #s.
