Is this the most talented offense Favre has been on?

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  1. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    16 on the year, which is in the middle of the pack.

    Thats better than being 30th like last year.

    They'll finish around 13th at the end of the year.

    If they hold the Titans to no sacks, i'll be shocked.
     
  2. Kaeotik

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    Yeah. Farve's gonna get smashed Sunday.
     
  3. GreenMachine

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    I agree. right after the game he is going to celebrate the Jets win by drinking an 18 pack of Old Milwaukee.
     
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    FUCK YEAH!
     
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  6. Jake

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    Freeman and Brooks were a good tandem weren't they?
     
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    If the Jets lose, what happens to this thread?
     
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    Aren't you a Pats fan? You must hate Dustin Keller right now. 'A bit' indeed.
     
  9. puddnhead

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    Uh ... no.

    Line this year is good, obviously, but his O line of c. 2002 (Flanagan, Rivera, Wahle, Tauscher, Clifton) was easily his best. That was the strenght of the Packers in that era, and the Packers were repeating division champs. Thompsons decision to not resign Rivera and Wahle in 2004 was part of the ugliness that came up this summer (and also a big reason the team went for 12-4 to 4-12 so quickly, yes it was that good & losing it had that much of an impact). The c. 1996 was pretty good too though, but it's more hazy in memory.

    The running backs? That's where i think it may be the closest comparison. Leon & Jones definitely are worth comparing to the Bennett-Levens tandem of the mid '90s.

    Receivers he had just last year were indisputably more talented (sorry). Jennings has the ability to someday become more successful than Sharpe IMO, and Driver and Jones were/are very solid.

    I am very high on Richardson though (although it wasn't asked). He is very comparable to William Henderson IMO, that's high praise coming from me.

    Overall the 96-97 era offense was better than this one IMO. If you don't believe me you should watch a few games of those years if you have the opportunity. In many of the '96 season games Favre got to sit the 4th quarter because they usually had such a big lead by then. Levens, Bennett, Henderson, Brooks, Rison, Beebe, Freeman, Chmura, Jackson, Winters, Rivera (though he was still rough then), Timmerman, Reuttgers. And of course Desmond Howard (who was just as electrifying as Leon is). This offense was ranked #1 in the league by a mile, I recall.
     
  10. nyjunc

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    Many of those sacks were on Favre for holding onto the ball too long. The Ol wasn't as good early as it is now(same for favre and the rest of the O) but alot of those sacks were from fvare being uncomfortable in the O. Our Ol is really good.
     
  11. k0kes

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    I actually completely agree with this post 100%! The only thing I think is lacking about this current receiving core is the speed aspect. This is why I'm dying to see Clowney. I love Cotchery, but he just doesn't seem to ever have any separation on the deep routes. Not that I condone Brett for throwing anyways, but there is just too much history that shows he will. I think that with a speedster, we would see a MUCH improved deep ball from Brett instead of just "Toss ups". They can be so irritating.
     
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    Wow and we still agree, didnt read far enough earlier. God we would be scary with a credible deep threat...
     
  13. slimjasi

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    I totally agree. Early in the season, Favre was holding the ball for way too long. (Particularly, in the Oakland game, where I thought it got to be absurd)
     
  14. OhioJetsFan

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    No.

    (filler)
     
  15. Big Blocker

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    Add me to the list, I think a burner wideout would be a huge help. Chad couldn't make good use of one, which explains why there wasn't one on the roster, but Favre certainly could.
     
  16. Favre4Ever

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    Best WR corps he had was in 2007. Best O line he had was in 2003. Green ran for nearly 1,900 yards. It was ridiculous how they were opening holes and blocking extremely well on screen passes.
     
  17. Favre4Ever

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    The 1996 team was the #1 scoring offense and defense. I don't think they were #1 in yardage but that's probably because they got out to so many big leads and didn't have to keep piling up the yards.
    That team was so good they didn't need great receivers. Brooks tore up his knee before the midpoint of the season, Freeman was a 2nd year guy with limited playing time at WR coming into the season. He also missed a few games with a broken arm. Chmura was injured for a bit as well. This team still kept on scoring. Ya really can't rate this team's WR core because they were always starting a different combination of guys. Brooks was very good though. He was awesome in 1995. Too bad he never could completely recover from the torn ACL.
     
  18. Favre4Ever

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    Not using career stats, but rather just what i saw of the guys on the field:

    Sharpe
    Freeman
    Jennings
    Driver
    Brooks
    Rison

    That's about it for WRs. Sharpe is by far and away the best. Driver is next but I think Jennings might actually turn out to be the better WR when its all said and done.
     
  19. nyjunc

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    his current duo is as good or better than Freeman, Jennings, Driver and brooks. I think Jennings has a chance to be realyl speical and seperate himslef but as of now they are simialr. Andre Rison at his peak was better but as a packer he was past his peak. Freeman and brooks were avreg WRs that Favre made look alot better than they were.
     
  20. slimjasi

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    A) you said neither coles and cotchery were in the top ten, that is only 6


    B) Then I said come up with 7 (because I thought 10 was absurd) . . .

    C) Coles and Cotchery are both as good as Driver, Freeman, and Rison. I agree with you about Brooks and Sharpe. (and maybe Jennings, who I think is probably more talented than either Coels or Cotchery but hasn't been productive enough yet for me to say he is definately better)
     
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